canned wrote:Is it stating the obvious to suggest that you can always submit a motion to change it?
Tony is right,
Sadly to submit an motion as an indivual member is not overly straight forward.
ICU officialy wrote:Motions for consideration at the AGM can only be submitted by clubs registered with
the Union within the 12 months preceeding the date of an annual general meeting.
Motions for consideration at the October 18th meeting must be submitted in writing,
signed by a club's chairperson and secretary, and received at the Canoe Union
Office no later than September 29th, 2008.
I am going to take a guess and say that if an indivual member would like to put a motion for discussion/change that it would have to be seconded in wrighting by at least one other indivual member. I am only grasping at straws with that one, but I am going to contact Micheal Scanlon for the offiicial ICU position.
Just going back to what I said earlier about voting, who can/can't and how it works.
Adrians wrote:
Your right I'll try explain a bit more, just before I do please understand that this is what I believe to be the situation and there fore open to being off the mark and open to correction.
I have come across a wee bit more information on this from someone a bit more in the know,
Basically each registered club has one vote plus 1 vote per ten registered member up to a maximum of 12 votes per club. Each club must nominate its voting delegate at the AGM
As regards individual members ; i.e non club members ; they can form a block of ten and that block is entitled to one vote. This is consistent with Club voting allowances.
To my knowlege there is no cap on the amount of "blocks" that can be formed.
So folks its all well and good making suggestions and stuff on online forums but if you want to be heard get your arse to the AGM and be heard.
You cannot "bitch and moan" of how rubish you think things are unless you are willing to be pro-active and getting involved. Like it our not if you would like change ( regardless of what way you see things ) make sure your membership is valid and go to the AGM.
or to quote Tony on (AKA Canned) on irishfreestyle
Tony / Canned wrote:That said, I think it's definitely time to approach the situation in a more level headed way than ICU bashing. I'm not trying to be rude but if people want to continue to bash, then they should either get their membership up to date and express a reasonable point in the right environment or accept that the organisation has nothing to offer them and leave the frustration behind.
It's easy to be cynical; perhaps naive to be hopeful, but surely this document and what is obviously a massive amount of time put into it is an opportunity to draw a line in the sand and state what you want your organisation to be?
Regards
Adrian